Koba
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27th March 2020, 09:52 PM
So i have heard a lot of people saying that CZ was better when the "op health" didn't existed or only important characters had it. I think this is really interesting, since i wasn't here by the time cz was like that, or if i was here i just didn't cared about cz. Well of course it would make fights much legendary because you will be in constant struggle to surviving and skills will matter A LOT more cause everyone is going to have almost the same hp. Many friends here or people i know tell me about those amazing cz days or how everyone was fighting each other and ill would like to experience that too. I think PLA accounts are a really good example of a nice and equal one to fight people. But well correct me if am wrong since i don't know how exactly accounts were back then.
Not only this but i think it also opens a door to a lot of cz ideas that not necessarily have to be gods or something related to fantasy. Like a mafia, pirates, detectives etc. Who are just random cz characters. But this is not only for cz, taking the example of the PLA again or maybe the Houses, it helps people with great ideas like those two, that aren't involved in cz to keep it up and don't get frustrated by an op to destroy them or something like that.
Which is why, i ask to the admin that will read this to take my current Op health(200) away and keep it as it should be. I also hope people who wants CZ like it used to be to do the same as me.
Sorry for tha bad english, it's not my main language.
Not only this but i think it also opens a door to a lot of cz ideas that not necessarily have to be gods or something related to fantasy. Like a mafia, pirates, detectives etc. Who are just random cz characters. But this is not only for cz, taking the example of the PLA again or maybe the Houses, it helps people with great ideas like those two, that aren't involved in cz to keep it up and don't get frustrated by an op to destroy them or something like that.
Which is why, i ask to the admin that will read this to take my current Op health(200) away and keep it as it should be. I also hope people who wants CZ like it used to be to do the same as me.
Sorry for tha bad english, it's not my main language.
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27th March 2020, 11:23 PM
Yeah back in the day the only people with OP health were the crimezone characters (and they themselves weren't that OP). Now it's a few users who can easily slaughter anyone with normal health. It was way more fun when a lot more things were equal, but who am I to judge. It is not anyone's fault that crimezone is what it is now except for the fact that ideas and enthusiasm have run dry.
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28th March 2020, 05:09 AM
The old cz had OP players. Mickey was powerful, Morgoth was OP, Malvon, The Hound, The Stag, Rover and Clarkson were powerful too because the only people that could kill them was other main characters because we didn't let regular users take part in the deaths of big players back then.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
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28th March 2020, 08:31 AM
Damen wrote on 28th March 2020, 05:09 AM:
The old cz had OP players. Mickey was powerful, Morgoth was OP, Malvon, The Hound, The Stag, Rover and Clarkson were powerful too because the only people that could kill them was other main characters because we didn't let regular users take part in the deaths of big players back then.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
I took part (or at least tried to take part) in the old crimezone. I was the person who spied on Mickey's army back during the war on Mickey. I think the fun of it was that these crimezone characters were the ones with OP health, not real players like the draconians. What's different is that *certain* dracs have such OP health that it takes so many hits to kill them, and they relog (not to mention what we just went through with community values not being followed). I guess if you want to count this as *regular players not being allowed to kill main characters* you can, but dracs don't feel like main characters but rather they kill because they can. The only fun I've really had killing one was yesterday when a group of people teamed up to kill a drac (but we got lucky because he wasn't even moving). There is no story behind their actions other than that they are evil scum following Legion's orders.
I think what we miss is being able to follow what was happening in crimezone so easily. There were active news reporters, and the stories were genuinely interesting. We don't have active news reporters anymore. It's a lost rank, really. Sometimes we get a good report from someone but it's not consistent. I guess that's sort of a thing we have to deal with, and some things just loose their charm. But whenever I see actual crimezone characters on it's always fun, for sure.
I don't think anyone is truly trying to bash crimezone, we are lucky to still have it in the game and we appreciate the hard work that goes into it. You should be glad that people are giving you this feedback, it means they really care about crimezone and what is happening with it. But you said to me after crimezone reset that maybe more people will have a chance to get involved, but some people like *certain dracs (as I find out even the dracs are not equal in power)* have the same amount of health as they used to, and they kill people instantly who try to be involved. Or maybe I'm just missing the point, and that dracs being the almighty powerful characters of the crimezone is the fun...but I always viewed them as lesser because they are just legion's followers. They should be able to be dropped for their actions if they are gained up by multiple users, but even that is nearly impossible with their health.
But again, I don't really have a say because I can't follow crimezone as much as other people do, I am just repeating things that are complained to me constantly and that I have witnessed myself.
Koba
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28th March 2020, 12:31 PM
Damen wrote on 28th March 2020, 05:09 AM:
The old cz had OP players. Mickey was powerful, Morgoth was OP, Malvon, The Hound, The Stag, Rover and Clarkson were powerful too because the only people that could kill them was other main characters because we didn't let regular users take part in the deaths of big players back then.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
As i said, i wasn’t here in those days and i couldn’t tell you how it was, this is what my friends have told me. And what they liked.
And that is not true, I don't bash the cz, i’m always online when there is cz. I have the highest rank in the Shinobis i follow the rules of them i always take serious what they say and i follow the cz story. I also try to get my friends in cz too, i’m always active on it. I don’t have anything to compare this cz with, but i get tired too when there’s cz and i get excited and i hear people saying like, “uh this cz sucks 2014 was the best one”.
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28th March 2020, 02:42 PM
Damen wrote on 28th March 2020, 05:09 AM:
The old cz had OP players. Mickey was powerful, Morgoth was OP, Malvon, The Hound, The Stag, Rover and Clarkson were powerful too because the only people that could kill them was other main characters because we didn't let regular users take part in the deaths of big players back then.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
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28th March 2020, 03:27 PM
Dice wrote on 27th March 2020, 10:33 PM:
We should bring back the smuggling gang Blackhawks. Those were the days. Waaaay better than this current CZ.
Damen wrote on 28th March 2020, 05:09 AM:
The old cz had OP players. Mickey was powerful, Morgoth was OP, Malvon, The Hound, The Stag, Rover and Clarkson were powerful too because the only people that could kill them was other main characters because we didn't let regular users take part in the deaths of big players back then.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
The first characters that we actually let regular players kill was Snowfalls, Raegon and Uzu. Adawg, Bp28 and Gamer were the champions of 2014. They had a lot of health and so did the enemies. Regular players were not allowed to kill the main characters and most likely just died if they tried. This was 2014.
I don't think any of you ever actually took part in cz because you don't remember it properly and its annoying when you bash the current cz when you wouldn't even take part in it anyway even if everyone's health was the same.
Having a few op characters is understandable, but it feels like in the recent crimezones (especially the previous one) we have a lot of OP people that it creates a disbalance. I thought we where leaving the pythas stuff in the last crimezone so I don't quite understand why it all returned again.
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28th March 2020, 07:30 PM
Beleth wrote on 27th March 2020, 09:52 PM:
So i have heard a lot of people saying that CZ was better when the "op health" didn't existed or only important characters had it. I think this is really interesting, since i wasn't here by the time cz was like that, or if i was here i just didn't cared about cz. Well of course it would make fights much legendary because you will be in constant struggle to surviving and skills will matter A LOT more cause everyone is going to have almost the same hp. Many friends here or people i know tell me about those amazing cz days or how everyone was fighting each other and ill would like to experience that too. I think PLA accounts are a really good example of a nice and equal one to fight people. But well correct me if am wrong since i don't know how exactly accounts were back then.
Not only this but i think it also opens a door to a lot of cz ideas that not necessarily have to be gods or something related to fantasy. Like a mafia, pirates, detectives etc. Who are just random cz characters. But this is not only for cz, taking the example of the PLA again or maybe the Houses, it helps people with great ideas like those two, that aren't involved in cz to keep it up and don't get frustrated by an op to destroy them or something like that.
Which is why, i ask to the admin that will read this to take my current Op health(200) away and keep it as it should be. I also hope people who wants CZ like it used to be to do the same as me.
Sorry for tha bad english, it's not my main language.
Not only this but i think it also opens a door to a lot of cz ideas that not necessarily have to be gods or something related to fantasy. Like a mafia, pirates, detectives etc. Who are just random cz characters. But this is not only for cz, taking the example of the PLA again or maybe the Houses, it helps people with great ideas like those two, that aren't involved in cz to keep it up and don't get frustrated by an op to destroy them or something like that.
Which is why, i ask to the admin that will read this to take my current Op health(200) away and keep it as it should be. I also hope people who wants CZ like it used to be to do the same as me.
Sorry for tha bad english, it's not my main language.
Fable
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1st April 2020, 02:09 AM
In the old CZ is was nearly impossible to be able to take part. War Knights became a thing and it was like impossible to be able to do anything with that rank. You had to be friends with people already in CZ at the time or know Damen, I never took part. With that being said, I think its pretty ridiculous that a normal user has the ability to be able to get OP health and a weapon and kill players. It's something that's unfair to users that aren't armed and something that I feel needs to be changed, with the implementations of sabers and other weapons, it in my opinion ruined CZ, along with the community leaving and lack of interest. I wish the old CZ would come back, or at least more people wanting to play.