So yesterday there was a "outbreak" of si commands. A rank 5 admin command.

A lot of people used it. Some did not, some used the command on other people. But now it's over and done with, people had their fun everything is normal now.

I do understand that some people were upset that this happened, and find it immature. But I see it as just having fun and getting cool items.

Now executing the "guilty" users seems a bit extreme if u ask me. Killing rather innocent users for putting on items in my opinion is outrageous. At most, should be arrested for about a week or so.

Some people are accusing of never putting on the items as someone else put it on them. This could be true, but it's not likely that you would get punished for no reason. (If this did happen to you, I recommend reporting to an administrator)

Edit: Although on the other hand (thanks zes for pointing this out).. It was getting annoying as me and other people were trying to stop this in the end, and it did crash the server. As I said before it is an admin command that got leaked and users weren't supposed to use this command. It was also being used on staff members such as Swirlie, Orlock, and Sled. A punishment is needed to prevent this happening in the future. (Thank you for all of the users who tried to stop this abuse)

In conclusion, it is what it is.

Note: I am not opposed of Damen's and Chelsey's commands, I just gave my opinion on the situation. How they are operating this situation is perfectly fine.
(This was just my opinion)

These were users who crashed the server at one point. They constantly made everyone lag even after seeing that mods and knights were struggling so much to stop it. The punishment is fair id say because they knew wat they were doing. Also wat else did they think would happen if they leaked and wore ids for items they clearly shouldnt have.

zes wrote on 26th May 2020, 01:16 PM:

These were users who crashed the server at one point. They constantly made everyone lag even after seeing that mods and knights were struggling so much to stop it. The punishment is fair id say because they knew wat they were doing. Also wat else did they think would happen if they leaked and wore ids for items they clearly shouldnt have.

You make a good point as I was trying to stop it, I never really thought about it that way

They got my spliff removed. I hate them

The reason why Damen and Chelsey constructed a hit list is because the situation was becoming very bad. It got so bad to the point that users broke the game and you weren't able to log on. When the game came back, users were still putting on buggy/laggy items which made the game unplayable in the most popular room. This room was where the staff had to pay full attention, as they always should, but mostly for this circumstance because we were told to send out people who had these items on or to try and remove the items from them as quickly as possible. I think that execution is fair, as this is a development issue and goes far beyond any game laws or lore. A death or a ban seems equal in punishment as the account remains unusable in both outcomes. We need to think about how Damen feels from a developer standpoint. His work was wide open and people were taking advantage of it left and right, even causing damage to the game as a whole.


P.S. Adding small items such as the goldantlers, spliffs, etc was not seen as a big deal by Chelsey and Sled. They didn't mind that people were using these items and they were allowing people to have a bit of fun. They didn't mind if people were giving themselves a few things as long as people did it moderately, which some didn't.

Haloween1000 wrote on 26th May 2020, 02:11 PM:

this reminds me of a problem that happened on oldcp that allowed anyone to get spliffs since the command was glitched

i was supposed to get ipbanned for that

Joseph wrote on 26th May 2020, 03:12 PM:

The reason why Damen and Chelsey constructed a hit list is because the situation was becoming very bad. It got so bad to the point that users broke the game and you weren't able to log on. When the game came back, users were still putting on buggy/laggy items which made the game unplayable in the most popular room. This room was where the staff had to pay full attention, as they always should, but mostly for this circumstance because we were told to send out people who had these items on or to try and remove the items from them as quickly as possible. I think that execution is fair, as this is a development issue and goes far beyond any game laws or lore. A death or a ban seems equal in punishment as the account remains unusable in both outcomes. We need to think about how Damen feels from a developer standpoint. His work was wide open and people were taking advantage of it left and right, even causing damage to the game as a whole.
P.S. Adding small items such as the goldantlers, spliffs, etc was not seen as a big deal by Chelsey and Sled. They didn't mind that people were using these items and they were allowing people to have a bit of fun. They didn't mind if people were giving themselves a few things as long as people did it moderately, which some didn't.

I am not opposed of Damen's and Chelsey's commands, I just gave my opinion on the situation. How they are operating this situation is perfectly fine. Although I do appreciate your reply as well.

Thank everyone for commenting and telling your opinions! I love to hear other ideas!

zes wrote on 26th May 2020, 03:25 PM:

i was supposed to get ipbanned for that

That can probably be arranged if you're feeling guilty

On topic, this issue caused the game to break, so yeah, that kind of thing usually results in some harsh consequences.

Chaserules21 wrote on 26th May 2020, 03:27 PM:

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Joseph wrote on 26th May 2020, 03:12 PM:
The reason why Damen and Chelsey constructed a hit list is because the situation was becoming very bad. It got so bad to the point that users broke the game and you weren't able to log on. When the game came back, users were still putting on buggy/laggy items which made the game unplayable in the most popular room. This room was where the staff had to pay full attention, as they always should, but mostly for this circumstance because we were told to send out people who had these items on or to try and remove the items from them as quickly as possible. I think that execution is fair, as this is a development issue and goes far beyond any game laws or lore. A death or a ban seems equal in punishment as the account remains unusable in both outcomes. We need to think about how Damen feels from a developer standpoint. His work was wide open and people were taking advantage of it left and right, even causing damage to the game as a whole.
P.S. Adding small items such as the goldantlers, spliffs, etc was not seen as a big deal by Chelsey and Sled. They didn't mind that people were using these items and they were allowing people to have a bit of fun. They didn't mind if people were giving themselves a few things as long as people did it moderately, which some didn't.

I am not opposed of Damen's and Chelsey's commands, I just gave my opinion on the situation. How they are operating this situation is perfectly fine. Although I do appreciate your reply as well.

I know, as was I.

To me it was pretty obvious that what was going on was not going to end well, especially since it really disrupted the game. People were placing cz items on their alts to keep them. Things that we are obviously not supposed to have because it’s granted through cz or is just for cz characters. Some create item ids even got leaked. Leaking create items and using them without the owners permission is normally a bannable offense. I didn’t have a problem with people doing some small things but eventually it just got obnoxious and out of hand.

It depends on the severity. There were cases where people put on items that literally made the entire room flash, or used overlays, stuff that's only ever used for CZ, and shouldn't be accessible to normal users. Execution is perfectly reasonable, if not even merciful for people abusing like that, especially after they were told to stop.