6th June 2020
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Some Things Need to Change

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6th June 2020, 03:14 PM

Lately, I've been noticing that a lot of users in the DSGHQ community have been abusing weapons. The revival system, the obsession with power, and the mass killings of innocents are all things that need to be changed. In the DSGHQ community, it should be a PRIVILEGE to own a weapon. By owning a weapon, it means that you have been trusted not to kill other users, but to joust, kill bots, or defend yourself when necessary. Fighting is something that has been around for longer than I've been here, and some users have seem to forgotten what fighting is designed for.

The first topic that I would like to address is the revival system. I would like to first point out, that I know I'm lucky that my main account didn't die, but that doesn't take anything away from my anger at how unclear the revival system is. How come users who die fighting cavetrolls after not relogging get revived, but innocent users with weak weapons who are targetted and killed by power-crazed users do not. No user should have to fear being afk at any time. Innocent users do not deserve to die, especially if they did not pull their weapon or did not have a weapon to begin with, thus they should be revived regardless of the circumstance. Attacks could happen anywhere, from warzones to sitting in the book room and dying to a 5 hit weapon. Who's to say that even if the users who died did defend themselves, would they have survived? And to Alatar, old sport. Why'd you tell me that Julian denied my appeal before he even looked at it? You thought I wouldn't find out or question why Julian didn't reply to me. ]https://prnt.sc/sv0sxa
The rules of the appeal are so unfair that even Alatar says it's unfair!
And to say that it wasn't intentional as well..
https://prnt.sc/sv0tnb
I would say that if a user threatens you by saying "you will pay with your life" or tells you that you will be cursed, it was intentional.
https://prnt.sc/suggi0

If you don't agree with me, that is fine. Feel free to leave a -1 below ;)

The second topic I would like to address is the need for power on this game. While ranks are great, they are not everything. One of the many reasons why the DSGHQ community is so different from others I've been apart of is mostly everyone knows everyone. Some of the friendships that we have made on here will last for a while, even outside of the DSGHQ community. I've never had anything bad to say about the userbase, but there's always a few exceptions. I'm sure that most people would agree with me when I say that they are apart of this community and play the games because it's fun, not because they want ultimate power and want to dethrone everyone who gets in the way of their plans... their plans to become King on a virtual game. I will say this once and I will not say it again. Power is NOT everything. You must work to earn your power, and earn your power the right way.

The last issue I would like to address is the mass killing of innocents. About an hour ago, two users were killed from simply sitting in the bookroom. A couple weeks ago, innocents were nuked in a corner, after being told they weren't going to be affected if they went there. In 2014 or 2015, this would've been unheard of, despite the legendary town bombing, it was very rare for innocents to constantly be killed. A lot of you may not agree with the new system where armed alt accounts have to reapply for their weapons, but I do. Like I said earlier, weapons are a privilege and I'm glad to see that changes will be made to how weapons are given out. Killing innocents cannot be justified whatsoever, try and argue with me on that in the comments.

Although tensions are high in this community right now, I am still thankful that I decided to come back. I am also thankful that I have been trusted to return to my former position of Detective, best rank no doubt about it. I just couldn't remain silent any longer about the things I've observed this past month. Like I said before, if you want to disagree with me, go ahead. You will not change how I feel about these topics. I sincerely hope that this post makes a difference and things start to change around here.

Thank you for reading,
Saber
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+1 by randy, EbonJaeger, Rachell, Finnawoke and 17 others, -1 by Xvoid

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6th June 2020, 03:20 PM

This is a valid post, and I'm glad that you want to say your opinion out to the public. You have good points, and have evidence to back it up. I hope everyone can agree on where you're coming from
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+1 by EbonJaeger, Faith, Brit and jay
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6th June 2020, 03:23 PM

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK
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+1 by Faith

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6th June 2020, 03:24 PM

I never understood the point of the whole "revival system." Why one person like that gets the absolute say on revival who isn't an admin is really beyond me. Especially considering the things I've heard about the so-called "process..."

To be honest, a manual system like that is pretty draconian to begin with (that's the English term I'm using, not the faction(?) in OldCP).
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6th June 2020, 03:33 PM

Saber574 wrote on 6th June 2020, 03:14 PM:
The first topic that I would like to address is the revival system. I would like to first point out, that I know I'm lucky that my main account didn't die, but that doesn't take anything away from my anger at how unclear the revival system is. How come users who die fighting cavetrolls after not relogging get revived, but innocent users with weak weapons who are targetted and killed by power-crazed users do not. No user should have to fear being afk at any time. Innocent users do not deserve to die, especially if they did not pull their weapon or did not have a weapon to begin with, thus they should be revived regardless of the circumstance. Attacks could happen anywhere, from warzones to sitting in the book room and dying to a 5 hit weapon. Who's to say that even if the users who died did defend themselves, would they have survived? And to Alatar, old sport. Why'd you tell me that Julian denied my appeal before he even looked at it? You thought I wouldn't find out or question why Julian didn't reply to me. ]https://prnt.sc/sv0sxa
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I don't think you understand the point of the revival system. It's there to prevent accidental deaths. In the first years of this game, there was no revival at all, regardless of whether or not it was fair. Going AFK is the fault of the victim, and nobody else. This isn't meant to revive everyone who dies, it's meant to undo the rare instances that weren't supposed to happen to begin with, for example, disconnecting, someone rampaging and killing unarmed users for no reason, I never intended for it to just revive everyone who asked. The fact that users have to fear being AFK is the fault of the trigger happy people who run around killing everyone, and that's why you're able to simply log out.
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6th June 2020, 03:36 PM

I agree with the points you've made here. It used to be a privilege to own a weapon but people take them for granted now and many think they can do whatever they want with them. Well said!
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6th June 2020, 03:36 PM

julianhak wrote on 6th June 2020, 03:33 PM:
I don't think you understand the point of the revival system. It's there to prevent accidental deaths. This isn't meant to revive everyone who dies, it's meant to undo the rare instances that weren't supposed to happen to begin with, for example, disconnecting, someone rampaging and killing unarmed users for no reason, I never intended for it to just revive everyone who asked.
That has not how it's been conveyed as I've heard it, so maybe some things need to be cleared up.
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+1 by Faith

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6th June 2020, 03:40 PM

EbonJaeger wrote on 6th June 2020, 03:36 PM:
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julianhak wrote on 6th June 2020, 03:33 PM:
I don't think you understand the point of the revival system. It's there to prevent accidental deaths. This isn't meant to revive everyone who dies, it's meant to undo the rare instances that weren't supposed to happen to begin with, for example, disconnecting, someone rampaging and killing unarmed users for no reason, I never intended for it to just revive everyone who asked.
That has not how it's been conveyed as I've heard it, so maybe some things need to be cleared up.

I've been pretty transparent with people, I made a new channel in my discord listing the criteria to be revived today, hopefully that would stop stuff like this in the future.
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6th June 2020, 03:40 PM

Hi Saber,

Great post! As Randy said, you have provided a lot of evidence to back up the points you were trying to make. I completely agree with everything that has been said here and I hope the right eyes see this post. There's always room for improvement no matter what it is.


About the revival system, I wanted to comment on that part the most. With the revival system, I notice that there are cases where double standards occur. I understand that bias can happen in any environment, but it's just a sad thing to witness when this whole revival system was supposed to make things easier for everyone, not give people unfair treatment. There was this one time when Pic and I were killed at the same time, in the same place by the same person and my account got revived and Pic's account didn't. Was it because I was a Moderator? Probably. I know that Moderators have a lot of privilege when it comes to being revived but I don't think it's fair. It's not equal by any means. I understand that Moderators have a job to do and that is why they need their accounts more, but if you're in a situation where a Moderator and a user dies and you don't revive the user but revive the Moderator in that instance, just revive the user as well.


- Joseph
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+1 by EbonJaeger, Faith and Pic

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6th June 2020, 09:02 PM

More users should be revived than are currently imo.
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6th June 2020, 09:08 PM

LETS GO BABYYY THATS MY BABYYYYY
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6th June 2020, 09:10 PM

alatar told me my application was denied and then it got accepted today. boy what-. and that aint hate on julian, i honestly was fine with being denied but its disorganized

also it makes me mad when i arm someone and they disrespect me by misusing their weapon
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6th June 2020, 10:23 PM

Sleddy wrote on 6th June 2020, 09:10 PM:
also it makes me mad when i arm someone and they disrespect me by misusing their weapon
The worst thing is when they somehow get re-armed, and then go and do the same thing again.
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6th June 2020, 11:09 PM

EbonJaeger wrote on 6th June 2020, 10:23 PM:
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Sleddy wrote on 6th June 2020, 09:10 PM:
also it makes me mad when i arm someone and they disrespect me by misusing their weapon
The worst thing is when they somehow get re-armed, and then go and do the same thing again.
Yeah I'm not gonna name names but that's exactly how I died. :)
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