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Why no one participates in war

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6th September 2020, 02:26 PM

Well aside from it being mostly bots, Frogs always gets weapons that are op as hell and just one shots people. Kinda ruins the point of fighting.

Its not fair and you can't complain that no one participates in cz if you literally hand out one hit weapons that one hit even op people. Any weapon like this should be removed or nerfed. People are smart enough to not go on kamikaze missions.
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6th September 2020, 02:27 PM

i miss when war was people vs people rather than people and bots vs people and even more bots and not many people had OP weapons.
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6th September 2020, 02:29 PM

U complain ab frogs yet you have Light, Orbay, Turin, Zes with his greatsword, his assassins, several of you have bots... NAH WTH STOP COMPLAINING LEGIT
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6th September 2020, 02:30 PM

Complaining about my weapon when Turin has 99999 db health, 1 hit choke and OP weapons, and a random ass kid who likes little girls named Light has unreasonably OP health and a weapon that 3 hits OP people, and Orbay who also has choke that can kill in 2 seconds for legit no reason.

all I have is a needle and it was made to kill Tulkas, but you guys decide to war & fight me, so I use it against you, if you guys can be fair and not spam overpowered bots, not use redmiles and stop begging Turin for overpowered force choke, then we'll fight fairly and ill only fight people like turin & tulkas w my needle.
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6th September 2020, 02:31 PM

Jonathan1tt1 wrote on 6th September 2020, 02:29 PM:
U complain ab frogs yet you have Light, Turin, Zes with his greatsword, his assassins, several of you have bots... NAH WTH STOP COMPLAINING LEGIT
1. Light doesn't even fight most of the time, nor does Turin and they dont one shot people.
2. Zes isn't one shotting people.
3. Assassins aren't one shotting people.
4. Evil has several bots too that respawn on a timer.
5. My post is about how its unfair to have one hit weapons.

Try again.
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6th September 2020, 02:32 PM

Frogs wrote on 6th September 2020, 02:30 PM:
Complaining about my weapon when Turin has 99999 db health, 1 hit choke and OP weapons, and a random ass kid who likes little girls named Light has unreasonably OP health and a weapon that 3 hits OP people, and Orbay who also has choke that can kill in 2 seconds for legit no reason.
all I have is a needle and it was made to kill Tulkas, but you guys decide to war & fight me, so I use it against you, if you guys can be fair and not spam overpowered bots, not use redmiles and stop begging Turin for overpowered force choke, then we'll fight fairly and ill only fight people like turin & tulkas w my needle.
Well worded, King Frogs of the North. LONG LIVE KING FROGS!!!
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6th September 2020, 02:36 PM

I agree with you completely. It's getting a bit annoying considering you can't sail to islands without being redirected to northblockade where bots are beginning to attack people who don't even move or where you have people purposefully drawing bots to spawn or killing people for no reason. Literally I got attacked by an OP guy just the other day because they didn't know me... like, what?

Anyways I'd much rather prefer if wars went back to being kept on only one island where they're on at a scheduled time. Like how it was in the past. It would bring more people back online.
And also.... wars don't need to happen every single week. You can go 2 weeks without having to be power-thirsty, it's not going to kill you.

Let me say it louder for the people in the back:

1. You don't need wars every single week.
2. There's no reason a bot should be able to bring a person with both medkits down to 33% in a single hit.
3. There's no reason for islands to be inaccessible through nearly every port aside from shipyard when shipyard itself is nearly inaccessible without triggering the many overpowered bots in northblockade.
4. There's no need for health like 300-400, I know it got nerfed so 300 is max now but considering a normal user has 100 health there's no need for OP to be considered 3 times the amount of that. OP should just be 200.
5. Remove armor/amulets/whatnot that give extra health, people with max health get them and that just buffs them even more.
6. Remind me again why we need redmiles, a shield which LITERALLY protects from all damage and is abused on almost a daily basis?
7. Why do people need more than 2 OP weapons? Why do people need 10 different OP weapons just to feel comfortable? I'm all for the creativity but goddamn- also what happened to lightsaber regulations? I don't think they've been used since they came out 2 years ago.
8. Remove nukes from people who have no need for them. Why does a bought military need like 100000 nukes? I'd honestly give them only to VERY trusted people.
9. Lessen the amount of bots allowed on, or atleast make scheduled times for them to be spawned. The limit for bots is 50 for both good and evil but that's a bit much. Also they respawn so constantly that it's nearly impossible to wipe a room.
10. You're gonna be hard-pressed to find people willing to fight if all they have is a 20 damage lightsaber and 120 health compared to people with 80 damage-200 damage weapons with 4000 health, plus redmiles and amulets. Yes the health update helps that alot but thats just it, the enemy will log off and refuse to log on for hours until their health is fully regenerated.

I could continue... but I'm bored.
Those are just my sincere opinions. I had a proposal idea for a transform for people who don't want to fight that would allow them to have the same perks as 'militamen' did in the whiteout server but people didn't like that much....

also watch this get disliked... i already know whose gonna dislike it anyways and its just because they don't like the fact that we're unhappy. :shrug:
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6th September 2020, 02:37 PM

Jonathan1tt1 wrote on 6th September 2020, 02:32 PM:
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Frogs wrote on 6th September 2020, 02:30 PM:
Complaining about my weapon when Turin has 99999 db health, 1 hit choke and OP weapons, and a random ass kid who likes little girls named Light has unreasonably OP health and a weapon that 3 hits OP people, and Orbay who also has choke that can kill in 2 seconds for legit no reason.
all I have is a needle and it was made to kill Tulkas, but you guys decide to war & fight me, so I use it against you, if you guys can be fair and not spam overpowered bots, not use redmiles and stop begging Turin for overpowered force choke, then we'll fight fairly and ill only fight people like turin & tulkas w my needle.
Well worded, King Frogs of the North. LONG LIVE KING FROGS!!!

Thank you, North Captain Jay. MAY YOU BE EMPOWERED 2X MORE!!!!!
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6th September 2020, 03:16 PM

the reason this has become a problem is because it's too easy to get power. when probably half the people in the game have/had OP health within the past 3 months (which isn't an exaggeration), power becomes less valuable, it stops being power, it stops being unique. when cz wants one person to be stronger, they do that (they should do that), but a week later, everyone has the same strength as the person who was buffed before, because you can get whatever you want by simply asking for it. it has now gotten the point where:

-snipers are more common than pistols
-op health is exceeding the limits damen originally set (300)
-everyone is running around with buffed damage sabers
-people who don't have op health are resorting to nukes which just cause collateral damage, more deaths, and more people begging for their restores, so this cycle could continue.

the meta changing every week has now led to the problems the comments above have described. both sides are needlessly powerful. the claim that frogs needs the ability to smite to combat his ridiculously tanky enemies is invalid, simply because they don't need to be that tanky, but, it's also invalid to claim that the "good" (saying that very generously) side can't keep up, because they have more support, probably plot armor, and health.

there's only one way to solve this problem. ban all restores. restores are the root cause of all this, if there aren't restores, the powerful people will fizzle out quickly due to nukes, but, they'll also be smarter, and work to preserve their accounts, since they're harder to get back. the removal of immortality has led to people being restored faster than they would have respawned in hell. there are also a few other things that can be done to make it even better:

- ban bot armies, they're stupid and suck the fun out of wars
- nerf snipers more, they just cause problems
- stop selling nukes, nobody should have had them in the first place
- enforce all USER health caps, even for light and turin. cz character health caps are another thing, but, you can't trust users with that much hp, it just causes problems, and has led to the use of nukes in combat.

wars are screwed up rn, and basically the only thing that happens. wars and trials, that's what oldcp has become. it can be changed, idk if its worth putting time into changing, but, it definitely can be fixed.
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6th September 2020, 03:30 PM

Frogs wrote on 6th September 2020, 02:30 PM:
Complaining about my weapon when Turin has 99999 db health, 1 hit choke and OP weapons, and a random ass kid who likes little girls named Light has unreasonably OP health and a weapon that 3 hits OP people, and Orbay who also has choke that can kill in 2 seconds for legit no reason.
all I have is a needle and it was made to kill Tulkas, but you guys decide to war & fight me, so I use it against you, if you guys can be fair and not spam overpowered bots, not use redmiles and stop begging Turin for overpowered force choke, then we'll fight fairly and ill only fight people like turin & tulkas w my needle.

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6th September 2020, 03:36 PM

Wars are legit so boring now it’s just bot warfare no point in fighting them anymore
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+1 by Julianhak, Jesse, Faith and Zes

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6th September 2020, 03:43 PM

Being a Knight feels really useless for all of the points brought up so far. Our weapons are far weaker than anyone else on both sides. Bots still do a load of damage to us. About the only thing going for us is increased health, but that's meaningless in a room full of bots. If the evil bots don't get you, surprise: the good ones will because they can hit you from halfway across the room before you can even react. Ask me how I know. There's absolutely no point, and it's no fun. :/

And I feel that we're just gonna be stuck in this situation because most of all this stuff was paid for by users. So what do we do?
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6th September 2020, 06:48 PM

not to be a debby downer but the game is so broken with all the weapons, database health, nobody following the rules or regulations set, crimezone characters handing out things that they aren't supposed to, things being OP, etc.

its tiring. but yeah hope nobody takes this the wrong way, its just the truth.
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6th September 2020, 07:07 PM

Sleddy wrote on 6th September 2020, 06:48 PM:
not to be a debby downer but the game is so broken with all the weapons, database health, nobody following the rules or regulations set, crimezone characters handing out things that they aren't supposed to, things being OP, etc.
its tiring. but yeah hope nobody takes this the wrong way, its just the truth.

Exactly. I hope that none of this gets taken as just a bunch of people bashing because I think we all want to see the game be the best it can be, and the first step to that is being able to see what could be improved. :)
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6th September 2020, 09:09 PM

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